When Starseeds Awaken: ET Contact, NDEs & the Soul’s Mission

[00:00:00] Welcome to Soul Guide Radio, where soul guided coaches, healers, and entrepreneurs activate their spiritual gifts to attract soul clients through resonance, not hustle. I’m Allysonl Scammel, your host and soul guide.

[00:00:21] Hey, dear ones. Welcome back to Soul Guide Radio. Today’s episode is something a little special, a part two to a conversation that started a few weeks ago here on the podcast with the amazing Debbie Soliris galactic historian, and aac. Channeler not long after that episode aired. Debbie invited me to her YouTube channel for a deep dive into our spiritual awakening stories and the conversation that unfolded felt too powerful, too aligned, and too soul guide radio, not to be shared here with you.

[00:01:00] So in this episode, we’re switching seats and Debbie is the one guiding the conversation. Together we explore the striking parallels between our awakenings hers through a profound extraterrestrial contact experience in 2012 and mine through a near death experience in Paris in 2009 that cracked my heart wide open and set me on the path to creating my Soul Blueprint methodology.

[00:01:29] You’ll hear us talk about what it’s like to return to the 3D life after a higher dimension activation. Why so many star seeds live normal lives until the moment they awaken. How galactic trauma, like the ln wars, is still encoded in our energy fields. Why earth is one of the fastest paths for deep soul healing and how modalities like the AK records, PHHT, theta healing and past life work, can help us unlock what’s been buried across lifetimes.

[00:02:05] This episode is for anyone who’s had a sudden awakening, awakening a near-death experience, an ET contact, or simply feels like I didn’t come here to play small. I came here to remember. Let’s dive in.

[00:02:25] Hey, Debbie, I’m so excited to be chatting with you. Hey, I’m excited to thank you for having me and working with my crazy schedule, but, um, many blessings and um, happy holidays, you know, so, yeah. Yes, we are recording this like right before the holidays and yeah. Um, yeah, you are on my podcast and that episode goes live tomorrow and I’m really excited to share all of what we were chatting about.

[00:02:51] And I’m sure you talked to a lot of folks and you may not even remember what we were chatting about. Yeah. Thinking, um. Kind of going into, well, you were talking about the Akashic records and, you know, um, walking me through some of the other star seeds and so we mm-hmm. Decided to have our star system.

[00:03:09] Sorry. And so we decided to have this follow on conversation about, and kind of getting into past lifetimes and past lifetimes from this planet. Mm-hmm. Have, and then past lifetimes from other planets and Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And I was sharing with you, I had an NDE and near death experience in 2009.

[00:03:30] Mm-hmm. And when I was, um, having it at the time, I had lived a very 3D lifestyle. Yeah. I was not born open with the gifts. Yeah. Me neither. No, you neither say me neither about that. Me neither. Nope. Um, I was, uh, very, very three DI, you know, was, I grew up in a military family, so we traveled a lot and then I, um.

[00:03:56] I was in the military. I was actually, um, active duty Navy for six years. Then from there, wow. Um, I, I went into kind of an, uh, kind of a, an environmental, um, career where, you know, I was kinda like an environmental specialist. You know, I worked for local government for a lot of years. Um, and then, uh. You know, in 2012 everything changed.

[00:04:20] Uh, you had an NDE, um, which is actually very similar to the process that, you know, my process where I wa I was a et contactee. So both of those experiences seemed to play out very similar to each other, you know, where it’s very life changing, you know, and then, um, you’re going into these higher realms and then you go down back into the 3D after, you know, you awaken or you come back to life or whatever.

[00:04:52] And, uh, usually, usually most nd years and et contactees will go through a period of depression, you know, after the experience. Um, because of that, you know, massive exposure to the higher dimensions, and then they’re kind of throwing back in the 3D and that can be very jarring, you know? So I don’t know if your experience was like that, but that’s how it played out for me.

[00:05:18] My experience was only 1000% like that. Oh, gotcha. Okay. Okay. You know, and like, yeah, we, we, we are, you know, we lightworkers we’re all pretty, pretty well connected now, and we’ve got our yeah. Channels and we’re chatting. But what was your, you said 2010? No, 2012. Yeah. Two 2012. So 2009, 2012. There was way, way, way less.

[00:05:40] And like I didn’t have a single person to talk to. Um, yeah. Me neither. Me neither. Um, I had to, they like. My story kind of ends that they thought that I’d had like a psychotic break or something, which I did not have. I had, yeah. Yeah. You know, it was like a spiritual breakthrough, but they thought it was a breakdown.

[00:06:00] Yeah. They called me to this clinic and I was just like, I don’t need to be here. I don’t need to be here. But there was a, there was one, the therapist on the staff who was originally from India and my Oh, interesting. My experience was all about healing past lifetime trauma, and I’m like, oh my God, somebody from India, he might understand past lifetimes.

[00:06:18] So I had requested him. Mm-hmm. And he said, absolutely not. I will not talk to this person about past lifetimes. I think he was kind of scared that I might interfere somehow with his own journey. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, I just remember like. Is there anyone I can talk to to help me put this into perspective?

[00:06:38] This massive, massive thing that I underwent? Mm. It took me years before I found an actual other human being. Mm-hmm. That helped me to put it into context beyond, yeah. Sort of classical westerns therapy, you know? Yeah. Oh yeah. No, I totally, I totally understand that. Um, you know, speaking as somebody that, you know, have gone through therapy myself, you know, um, before my awakening anyway, um, I was terrified to tell anybody what happened to me because, you know, I, I knew they would think it was psychosis or, you know, so, um, so actually I, I told very few people after I had my, I didn’t even tell my family, you know, my, my immediate family.

[00:07:26] I didn’t tell them for years what happened. Um, I told my husband, ’cause, you know, he. He understood, you know, to a certain extent, um, I did tell a couple of my spiritual teachers, um, who confirmed that what I went through was real, you know, it wasn’t like made up or, you know, I just, but, but I didn’t tell anybody for two years.

[00:07:49] I would think at least two or three years after I went through my experience and then I ended up, um. I was talked, uh, into doing an et contactee panel in Denver. So I was, I didn’t wanna do it ’cause I was just like, oh no, they’re gonna make fun of me, you know? Uh, um, but I, at the last minute, I just decided, okay, I’ll just, you know, wing it and just do it.

[00:08:13] And my story was very well received. I received so much out outpour of love and the substance from, you know, the Denver spiritual community that I was like, wow, you know, I was not expecting this. Um, uh, and, uh, but yeah, I can imagine like, you know. You and I going through what we went through, even though technically there are different experiences there.

[00:08:40] There’s so many I ideations of it that’s the same that, um, it is kind of a jarring experience, you know? And it does take a lot of integration and adjustment to process, you know, what happened. Um, you know, I’m sure for you it took a lot of years, you know, to, to integrate. Um, for me it was the same way.

[00:09:04] Yeah. Still it took so many years to integrate and I feel like I’ve integrated the big pieces of it, but I’m really Yeah. That feel integrating like the next chapter. Right. Is it, um, I know that your, uh, listeners will know your story or most of them, but is your story Yeah. Something that you can share or is it a, something that, that.

[00:09:25] Oh, sharing. My NDE is never like, it’s, it’s hard to condense it down to a two to three minute story, but I can give it a go ’cause uh, you never shared your story on my podcast and it was one thing when we wrapped up, ’cause I had so many other questions for you when we wrapped up. Right. I’m like, God, I sure wish I would’ve asked her the story.

[00:09:44] Um, yeah. Is that something we can share? Oh yeah, yeah. I, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll share the abridged version ’cause we, yeah. We have very limited time, but Yeah. Yeah. And I, I know you got children to pick up afterwards. Yeah. So, um, ’cause I, I could probably talk about this, uh, for hours, but, um, so basically what happened, okay.

[00:10:04] I will just give you the, the, the really brief rundown, um, is that in 2012 I was very unawakened, you know, I just, I. You know, my, my husband liked paranormal stuff and he’d followed the ufology and all that, but, and so I was exposed to it somewhat through that, but I didn’t believe in any of it. I didn’t think it was real.

[00:10:28] Um, I, you know, I was, I was, you know, trained in science, you know, so I was trained that, you know, there had to be a logical ex explanation for everything. Um, and so, um, I, I went, I, I was going through some transitions, you know, so, uh, we were moving and there was, you know, I think a lot of adjustments, you know, uh, and so.

[00:10:54] Uh, I remember that one night, um, I had a lot of concern for the planet, and so I sent out this very earnest prayer to, uh, the higher dimensional beings of, of the universe asking them for assistance for planet Earth. And, um, it was just during like a sleepless night, like I was, you know, having insomnia one night and just decided to pray for the planet.

[00:11:19] And then I just forgot about the prayer. And then two weeks after I did the prayer, um, or, and I just forgot about it, I just went back to my day-to-day life and then I went back to sleep again. And when I came back into consciousness, I was in a different reality. And as I started observing things around me, I realized I was in the interior of a starship, of an extraterrestrial Starship.

[00:11:45] Uh, I had interactions with extraterrestrial beings. Uh. Um, who said that they were arcturians for, from Arcturus in the bogus constellation. I asked them, you know, why did you bring me up here? I’m nobody special. You know, they said that it was because I was part of their soul group and I had chosen to be on earth to fulfill a mission, but I had forgotten my mission.

[00:12:12] And so when they, and they heard my prayer, so they figured when they heard that prayer, along with I think some other reasons, um, they figured I was ready. You know, I was ready to know the truth about things. Uh, I felt like I was on board the ship for quite a long time, like, uh. I, um, I mean, when you’re in the higher rounds, there is no linear time, so it’s hard to, I think, quantify, you know, how long it was.

[00:12:41] It felt like I was there for a while. Like, I mean, not just like one day or a few hours, but for a long time. Uh, and they were showing me around the ship, you know, they, I seen, you know, I’ve seen technology I’ve never seen before, had interact. There was, the ship was huge. It was like a whole city. I mean, there was hundreds of beings of different extraterrestrial species that were also on board the ship, and there was hundreds of them, you know, so, um, so I had interactions with some of them, you know, some of the other ones as well.

[00:13:18] Um, and then I, when I, um, I came back too, um, when I came back, I was back in my bed. Um. And I knew at that point something extraordinary had happened. There was a lot of tele telepathic conversation about what was going on on planet earth, um, why things are so messed up here, you know, what was, you know, our role in all of this, uh, you know, what’s the future of planet Earth?

[00:13:50] You know, so what, what is the potential future that we’re working towards? And so there was a lot of information exchange to where when I woke up, I felt like I had gone through a massive, you know, activation, you know, that I was not the same person, you know, that, uh, you know, something extraordinary had happened to me and I was never going to be the same, you know?

[00:14:16] So, um, but then again, you know, you, your, your logical mind kicks in and you’re like thinking like, does this really happen? You start second guessing it. And then, uh, you go through this period of, oh, I don’t know if I can trust anybody. You know, to talk to about this. ’cause I don’t know how they would take it, you know?

[00:14:38] Um, all I know is I didn’t have any, any psychic gifts. You know, I didn’t really delve into, you know, the whole metaphysical thing. You know, I was just trying to work a 3D job, you know, I was just, you know, trying to be a good human. Um, but after that experience, it was like the floodgates. It was like I was seeing auras, I was reading energy, I was, um, getting massive downloads, um, seeing, uh, galactic, you know, uh, information about different star systems.

[00:15:14] I mean, it was mass a massive change. Uh, and that in itself can freak freak you out. You know, like, you’re, you’re like, you know, is this real, you know, am am I losing it? You know? Um. And, uh, that was when I started taking a lot of spiritual classes locally. And, uh, I’m fortunate, I live in Colorado where, you know, we have a thriving spiritual community here, so, you know, there’s offerings on everything.

[00:15:41] Um, and I did a lot of research. Like I, I was reading so many books during that time. It was just like I was trying to figure out, you know, what the heck happened, you know, so forth and so on. Um, and eventually, uh, through a lot of the spiritual classes I was taking locally, I started taking classes in Akashic Records reading because, um, my Reiki teacher told me that’s where she thought my downloads were coming from.

[00:16:11] And so I was like, oh, I gotta learn more about this Akashic stuff, you know? So, um, so then I just realized, oh, I’m pretty good at the, you know, doing readings, you know, let me do this as a side gig. You know, I was still working my 3D job, you know, so. I started slowly, you know, building, you know, my practice.

[00:16:31] But, um, I guess apparently my readings are really good because, uh, people were just like, oh my God, I got, you know, they were just talking to all their friends. And then I was going on these Facebook groups and everybody wanted a reading. And then I got introduced to, uh, people locally, particularly Gaia employees who had readings with me.

[00:16:54] And that’s how I ended up on Gaia. And that’s how, you know, I, I would say everything’s history after that, but, um, but that’s my story in a nutshell. So I hope that was short enough, but I could have gone on to more and more detail, but I just wanted to. Kind of just give you the overview. Um, and if people wanna know my story, it’s all over.

[00:17:16] They can find it on my website or, um, on another, you know, podcast or something. But, um, I imagine you, your experience, you said you, you had downloads of various past lives, like you were telling me that before we started recording, so, um, I’m kind of curious to know what happened. Yeah, Debbie, my story is incredibly similar to yours.

[00:17:40] Yeah. Like, like really incredibly similar I had Oh yeah. Your career in government living a very 3D life. It’s funny, I married into the army. My husband was in the military for 26 years ago. Yeah. Very familiar with the military lifestyle. And myself was doing humanitarian response, working all over the world.

[00:17:59] Kind of hit a rock bottom moment. Mm-hmm. 2009 where I just like, my, my career didn’t feed me. My friends didn’t feed me. Like, not like, I was just like, everything in my life was just, uh, not like a, I, I don’t know, like how to say it. I just, I, I crashed of, of, uh, sadness I guess. I don’t know. And so I got the, this little voice in my head, and I didn’t even know what the word intuition was or higher self or spirit guide, but a little guy was saying, quit your job and travel the world, your job and travel the world.

[00:18:35] And at that point, I was very, actually type A in my career, defined me. So for me to quit my job made me absolutely identity less. Yeah. Gotcha. It was so rock bottom that I did it. Mm-hmm. And so I got as far as Paris and that’s what I got visited by a collection of consciousness, kind of similar to, you know, uh, Esther Hicks and uh, Abraham.

[00:19:02] Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. Collection of conscious. Yeah. And this collection of consciousness called it self live, LIVE. Oh, interesting. Said that. Yeah. They said they came from my soul family. And that I agreed I was on a path of destruction because I had so much, what they called cataclysmic past lifetime trauma inside of me that no, the no human being could help me heal.

[00:19:27] Only higher consciousness could actually help me heal it. But I had to, but they had to hold the space for me almost as if I was in like therapy or like more like energy healing sessions, if that makes sense. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. They were like my energy healers. Mm-hmm. And I also went into an altered dimension reality with them for, again, clock time, I don’t know, but I think it was about actually six weeks maybe.

[00:19:55] It was a very long time. And I mean, I was in my body, I was, you know, uh, functioning as a human being, but I was working with them in a way that we were going to different timelines. We were going to different dimensions. And essentially they took me to one particular past lifetime and they said there were many that I was healing from, but one in particular like was the lifetime where the trauma went above and beyond what a normal human being or normal soul actually would endure.

[00:20:27] So I agreed on a soul level before I came into this lifetime that when I hit three, two years old, they would. Come to me mm-hmm. And do this intensive, intensive healing from trauma that actually was from another planet. This lifetime was not on earth. It was from another planet. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But Debbie, this is all very easy for me to say now, but at the time I thought I was going absolutely mad.

[00:20:52] I didn’t know what spirit guides were. I didn’t know what a soul family was. I didn’t know about, really about past lifetimes. Hadn’t given it much thought. Yeah. So, of course I thought I was going absolutely mad. Um, so my story is also what I’m sharing right now. A very, very long, long story, very short. But essentially these spirit guides kind of marched me to my death.

[00:21:15] Oh, wow. Yeah. So for me to heal from this past lifetime trauma, I literally had to cross over and the way that they did it, and I got very, very surrendered. Or it took a long time. That’s why it was a matter of like six or maybe even eight weeks Yeah. That we were working together. Um, because at first I was like, no, I’m not gonna do that.

[00:21:34] I’m not gonna do that. I’m going crazy. I was so second guessing, but then, yeah. Little by little, everything that they were telling me ended up happening. Like little by little I ended up like just feeling this frequency, which was pure love. Mm-hmm. I think other people throughout my path suggest that it was dark energy.

[00:21:54] No way. Yeah. No way. It was this dark energy. This was absolute energy of love and light. Yeah. And um, what they did was little by little, gentle by gentle, actually the whole process was uncomfortable, but also very gentle and loving. I, um, I stopped eating and drinking and I, I was walking. So what was happening, Debbie is all, and they were like, they were literally like, they weren’t inside of me, but they got to the point where they were able to push my body so they could push me Right.

[00:22:28] Or push me left. So. What was happening is I was started, we started going on these long walks through the streets of Paris, and as we walked, we’d have these conversations and they would give me like these visions of past lifetime trauma and endured, and then they would help me heal that particular trauma.

[00:22:45] And they Interesting, they were describing that it’s better when you’re, when you’re healing this level of pain, to be very tired, to be actually fatigued. And in some cases it’s better that your body’s in movement. So it’s almost like you’re distracting yourself from the intensity of the, uh, energy. Yeah, a lot of it like that.

[00:23:03] But yeah, I could see where that would be a little easier for you, you know? Um, ’cause when you’re just sitting, it’s just like. You’re, um, you’re feeling everything more intensely. You know, it’s sometimes, I think sometimes that’s, um, why, you know, maybe doing past life regression or, you know, or, you know, QHHT could be really intense, you know, because yes, you’re not, you’re not doing anything else, you know, so, yeah, it, I could see that.

[00:23:32] Uh, so when did the NDE happened? Was it, uh, after the, oh yeah. So walking, yeah. So I was walking all day and then sleeping at night. Yeah. And at a certain point they said, we need you to start walking all day and all night. Mm. And at a certain point. And then I stopped eating and I stopped drinking, but I wasn’t hungry and I wasn’t thirsty.

[00:23:52] Yeah. Gotcha. Again, I believe I was in like a different timeline, a different dimension. I was like, I was not Paris didn’t look like Paris, Debbie. Oh, interesting. Okay. You know, like, and I, I was very, I was very, very familiar with Paris. It was a city I knew really well. I tra traveled to many, many times, knew it really well.

[00:24:11] Yeah. Gotcha. And all of a sudden it was like, I don’t feel like I’m in Paris anymore. Mm-hmm. And then at a certain point, I literally, my body ran outta life force. Mm-hmm. I just ran outta life force. ’cause I hadn’t eaten for so long. I hadn’t slept for so long and I hadn’t drunk water for so long. Yeah.

[00:24:28] Gotcha. So I finally, like I was at, I was renting this flat. It was on like the third floor, and I remember the last bit of walking. I couldn’t, I literally couldn’t, I had to crawl up. I could not walk anymore. I had to crawl because my life force tank was on empty. But somehow they took away, like it wasn’t physically painful.

[00:24:53] It was uncomfortable, but not mm-hmm. Physically painful. Um, because again, I was in some altered reality and, and yeah, very, very, very high vibrational frequencies, which would take away some of that physical pain. Yeah, totally. And I finally got to the, to the bed, and I was on an incredibly busy street of Paris, and there were like nightclubs below me, and all of a sudden I felt my, my energy body lift up from my physical body, and it just went quiet.

[00:25:23] There was no sound and, and I was just engulfed by love and light and I was just engulfed by members of my soul, family, and source energy. And I think that’s when I got like my main downloads and I got download after download of what’s supposed to happen to planet Earth after we go through the ascension process.

[00:25:46] And again, yeah, I had no idea what an ascension process was like. I had no clue to what, yeah, no, I, I totally understand that. And so it was download after download and then downloads about how to teach people to connect to and co-create with the spiritual realm, which is what I teach now. Yeah. Downloads about how to energy heal, downloads about past lifetime healing.

[00:26:06] Anyway, so then I, I, I didn’t wanna go back and I, I remember looking back and seeing my dead limp, like my body was just broken, my physical body, and I just said, I don’t wanna go back into that human suit. No way. Um, that thing’s broken. I don’t wanna go back. And they were just like, mm, girl, we just downloaded so much.

[00:26:27] You need to. Get back in there and you’ve got much more work to do on planet Earth. So don’t even think about joining us now. Like, yeah, no, like there was kind of this like tough love, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. You can’t stay here. You have to go back. Yeah. But I knew, I knew that was true. Like I knew I didn’t really fight it, but I remember like looking back at my body thinking, I don’t wanna go back in that painful thing and feel all that emotional pain, you know?

[00:26:54] Yeah. But at the same time, I knew it wasn’t my time. And so I, I did, and then it was very much like you described. I, I kind of then had that eventually, like I, I, I regained everything. I started eating again and drinking again, and sleeping again. And then little by little I got my physical body working again.

[00:27:12] Um. Then I had that depressive depression crash because yeah, then Liv left the high that that collection of consciousness left and they said, you’re on your own now. We gave you everything you need. Now you have to learn to use it for yourself. And they were kind and so they, they left. I mean, I had access to my higher self and source and spirit guides, but that particular c collection of consciousness then moved on.

[00:27:38] Yeah. Gotcha. Contract. And then I had to like, yeah, I, and I did exactly what you did. I went, because I was in between jobs, I had quit my job and I was like, oh my God, where do I go? I was just like, that’s when I heard this little teeny tiny whisper of my higher self kicking in, um, saying Go to San Francisco.

[00:27:57] Mm-hmm. So I went to San Francisco and I had no money, and it’s an expensive city, but I got a San Francisco public library card, and they have, for a public library, they have an impressive selection of metaphysical and spiritual books. Oh, I can imagine. I can imagine. Yeah. And I just spent my days reading and reading and reading everything I could get my hands on.

[00:28:17] Yeah, yeah. No, I, I can imagine, it’s kind of interesting how, um, you know, when you come back to you, you, you don’t wanna leave that realm, you know? ’cause I felt the same way. Like I was so depressed afterwards. ’cause like, why was I there in this? Beautiful eng gold with all this love and you know, his acceptance and, you know, peaceful energy.

[00:28:40] And then I’m back in this, you know, really dark, dense reality, you know, and then, uh, and you do go through this period of depression. You know, I, I would say that’s where the nd and the, uh, et contact experience is very similar. Um, the difference is that the et contactee experience, you don’t have to die to go through that experience.

[00:29:04] You know, you just have an experience and then you come back. But, um, but it’s interesting that you know, your. Your higher guidance, you know, your, the higher guides, you know, I guess pushed you to that point where you ended up physically dying, even if it was just for like a few seconds or a few minutes or whatever.

[00:29:23] Um, uh, so you were never taken to the hospital. You were just dead on the ground. Oh, that’s interesting. Okay. Um, I was never taken to the hospital, but then as this is where the story gets pretty long, but I did, I they did, they did actually take me to the hospital after that. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. So I did, I did go af after, but after they approach the hospital and they were like, there’s nothing wrong with you.

[00:29:47] Yeah, yeah. Because that’s usually the case with, uh, it’s usually very unexplained, like why that person got very unexplained. Yeah. And then they thought that I’d had a, like, some sort of psychotic break and they sent me to the, to the counseling. And then the counselors were, I never got diagnosed with any, they didn’t not know what to diagnose me with.

[00:30:05] Yeah, gotcha. They kind of walked away with the whole from a, a regular hospital and then a, a psychiatric hospital with no diagnosis because Yeah. There was, there like, there was no nothing to diagnose really. Yeah. You know, and from that lens. Yeah. Yeah. Debbie, what I would love to ask you mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:30:26] To ask you where did the bloody leap? What planet was I on when I had this cataclysmic, do you think? Um, because. So I had, I was, I was primarily, I was healing from a lot, but there was one in particular, kind of like the lifetime to take all the trauma cake, and it was on a, it was on another planet and this is how my guides downloaded it to me.

[00:30:52] And you might say, Allison, I have no idea what you’re talking about and you’re an expert on this, but I’m just gonna share because I’m Okay, please. Another piece that I’m trying to integrate. Yeah. They said that we, there are seven planets that have humanoid, DNA on it and Earth is the least evolved of the seven.

[00:31:10] And I was on planet number five that where I had this. Pretty bad trauma. Very bad trauma. Does that resonate, like Yeah. Work? Yeah, totally. Um, I would say there’s probably more than just seven or eight planets that have human DNA. I think there’s a lot more, but, okay. Okay. Yeah, but it’s the seven that I’ve lived on.

[00:31:33] Maybe that, yeah, maybe it’s a seven that you, you incarnated on. Um, but I would s if I had to garner a guess, um, without knowing all the other details of what you experienced in that lifetime, I would say most likely the planet where you had the worst, uh, trauma was in the Lyra system. So Lyra is a, um, was the home of human consciousness.

[00:32:02] So it was the original, I would say phys, you know, paradise planets, you know, it was the place where human evolution began. And, um. Uh, in a, they, they lived for thousands, if not, you know, hundreds of thousands of years in complete, you know, paradise and bliss and beauty and, you know, so, and no adversity, you know, so the, so these, you know, humanoid beings, um, and there was, there was a little bit diversity on these planets.

[00:32:35] So they didn’t, it wasn’t just human noise. There was elementals, there was cat beings, there were, you know, bird be bird avian type beings. Um, a lot of hybrid, hybrid beings on these planets. But the human noise were becoming like, the most prevalent race, you know, uh, there was, there was two major ones.

[00:32:53] There was the blue vegans, which, which was more the mother goddess consciousness beings. And then the white, you know, more Caucasian looking, um. Uh, you know, lns, uh, if I had to garner a guest, I would say you were on one, on one of the ln planets. Um, and you are probably going through the ln wars. They were the most catastrophic, the most horrible of all experiences that we’ve ever, I think, encountered in this entire universe, let alone this galaxy.

[00:33:29] You know? So I think a lot of us, myself included, I had to heal from ln trauma, um, because I got a download similar to you where I was in this ln life and I died a horrible death. You know, it was, it was horrific. Um. Um, and I think a lot of humans, um, even beyond just you and me, I think a lot of us are integrating ln trauma signatures that, um, are so embedded in our DNA.

[00:34:00] It keeps replicating in other lifetimes, you know, where we’re constantly trying to relive this similar experience in order to try to resolve it or master it or learn some lessons from it. Um. And I think this is the lifetime where a lot of us are really integrating, you know, these, these lifetimes. Um, because now we have the tools to deal, you know, we have this, you know, this psychotherapy tools, but also the energetic tools to really integrate, you know, these traumas.

[00:34:37] And so you as a soul probably chose to be here on earth in order to finally integrate this experience so you, you don’t have to keep reliving it or keep, you know, uh, going through that. Um, and my guess is that you probably had incarnations and probably a lot of other systems, you know, so maybe you spent some time in the P eighties, maybe you spent some lifetimes in Syria, maybe you were in Andromeda.

[00:35:05] I mean, I think, you know, a lot of us have had a multitude of incarnations. Um. It kind of annoys me sometimes when people ask, well, what’s my star seed? And I’m like, well, you’re more than just one. You know? Yeah. It’s just, yeah. Um, and when I try to, you know, when I do readings for people, I still do Akashic readings.

[00:35:27] I, I can’t take new clients because I, I have so many clients, it’s just insane. I, I have a wait long, very, very, like several year long wait list, you know? Um, so at this point I’m not taking new clients, but when I do work with people with the Akashic Records, um, I think a lot of times they’re surprised at, oh, you, you, you’re saying telling me I’ve been to more than one, one system.

[00:35:49] I said, yeah, I mean, I mean, we’re all infinite beings. We’re all so shards of source. Of course, we’re gonna have incarnations in more than just one system. Um, but usually when I do a reading, I try to focus in on those systems that have had the most influence on my clients. Like, or, or, or, or the ones that they have to, they need to integrate.

[00:36:10] You know, like there’s some aspect of that lifetime that they had where they have to integrate. Um, so yeah, my guess is ra. Um, you know, without knowing more about your story, I don’t know which planet it was ’cause there was several planets that went through that. Um, but I would say, I mean, just knowing, uh, speaking as someone that’s gone through a very similar experience as you, it was horrific.

[00:36:38] I was, when I had that download of my ln lifetime girl, I cried for months afterwards. I was depressed for months. I could not integrate it. Um. I finally did some past life regression work, uh, with a trusted, um, practitioner, um, to, to process what happened to me because it was so horrific. Um, and it wasn’t just what happened to me.

[00:37:07] It was what’s happening to everybody. It was, I mean, just the reptilian beings and slaughtering people and destroying the environment. It was heartbreaking to, to go. I mean, I can’t even begin to describe to you how heart, I mean, I think you understand it, but. It’s heartbreaking. You, you, you just can’t recover from that, from a human perspective.

[00:37:34] You know, it, they think, you know, they say the world wars were bad and, you know, like the Vietnam War was really bad and the Korean War was bad. It was not at the level of this, this was complete annihilation, you know, it was, um, and, you know, just the horrible things that were going on. Um, and I don’t even wanna go into detail because I don’t wanna traumatize people.

[00:37:58] Yeah, no, I know. So, yeah. You know, I don’t wanna traumatize people, but yeah, it was pretty horrific. Yeah. Um, so as you’re talking, my hair self is just saying Yes, yes, yes, yes. This is it. So, I, I’m, I’m. I’m getting just a higher self. Yes. That this was a lifetime and I absolutely, like what I experienced in this kind of a series of past life lifetime regressions, I guess.

[00:38:22] Mm-hmm. Yeah. That I walked through, uh, is exactly as you describe. Mm-hmm. That whenever I tell this story of it, I never go into detail about exactly what I saw in the trauma because I, I describe it as trauma that goes above and beyond anything that you can really wrap your head around. It’s so intense.

[00:38:42] So it just makes sense that trauma like that is you, it’s just gonna take lifetimes and lifetimes to heal or Oh, absolutely. Or it’s gonna take a cataclysmic event like an ET or an NDE or I don’t know, like that would be interesting to talk about because what’s your sense of lightworkers on planet right now?

[00:39:03] Who’s had a, had a lifetime that. Experience this level of trauma from these ln planets at that time of their evolution. Um. I would say, uh, partially. Um, there’s a lot of, uh, star season lightworkers here that are here because they truly wanna be of service and they’re trying to prevent a, a, a similar catastrophic event happening on planet Earth because they lived through it.

[00:39:34] You know, they went through it and they were just like, we don’t wanna see anybody else go through that, because it was so horrific. Um, so I would say there’s a certain level of altruism, you know, with, uh, US star seeds being here. Uh, but I think also there’s a, on a personal level, they hear to try to heal from it because it’s so embedded in their, uh.

[00:39:56] Soul and physical DNA, that they’re trying to heal from it themselves. So they have to be in a similar kinda low density planet in order to go through similar experiences, maybe on a lesser level, but you know, where they can go through experiences enough where, uh, they could heal from that, that lifetime, you know, or, or lifetimes.

[00:40:20] It might’ve been more. But, um, my understanding is that, um. There’s been, um, a lot of star seeds that, uh, have gone through LI mean, I would say 80% of the people I work with. Um, and it may be more or less, but I’m just, I’m just, uh, doing a round number here. Um, have gone through Laryn trauma, you know, um, and so, uh, they, they’re trying to integrate it, um, because in previous lifetimes they were in higher dimensional planets, you know, so maybe they couldn’t really completely integrate the trauma like we can here on earth.

[00:41:04] Um, that’s probably why so many souls wanted to be here on Earth. It was the opportunity to serve and also the opportunity to, uh, work through this and evolve past it, you know? So, um, and you know, I get a lot of questions from my clients, like, why would I choose that? You know, why would I choose to. You know, relive, you know, an ancient trauma and on a higher soul level, um, it’s because you want to evolve.

[00:41:36] You know, you want to, you know, return to the source or you wanna go into this higher dimensional, you know, plane, you know, so, and you can’t carry all this trauma with you, you know, when you’re trying to evolve into this higher spiritual level. So, um, so earth is like the best, I would say, uh, training ground.

[00:41:58] We have, you know, for working through this. And the other thing I notice too is that a lot of star seeds are telling me the same thing. Like they’re, you know, very similar experiences. And, uh, but then they’re also saying like, I feel like I’ve lived 10 lifetimes in one life, in this particular life. Like, I’ve gone through so much processing, so much, you know, self, um.

[00:42:24] Uh, you know, you know, self-awareness, you know, self-work, you know, inner shadow work that, you know, I do feel like I’ve lived through a multitude of different lifetimes. Um, and I think it’s because we’re trying to heal past this ancient ancestral karma and trauma, you know? So, um, and then the other aspect of it too is that, you know, because Earth is such a low density planet, um, a lot of us are feeling this urgency, like, you know, we need to do this now.

[00:42:58] You know, we can’t sit on this, or, you know, we don’t have years to waste. Um, so a lot of us don’t want to do the traditional therapy anymore ’cause that takes years and years. Who has that kind of time. So thank goodness that, you know, now we have modalities like QHHT and KIC records and human design, which is what you work with, and, uh, all kinds of modalities now where we can fast track our way through this, uh, healing, you know?

[00:43:29] So, um, you know, so I think it’s great, you know, that you got the support you needed when you were ready for it, you know, so, um, and, uh. Uh, and that’s why I do a co a lot of akasha clearing sessions because I do have a lot of clients still integrating this. Um, so I don’t know if they, I may be, I may maybe beyond answer your question, but I, I, I’m just, this is something I’m so interested in because not only have I lived through it myself, but I see it over and over and over and over again.

[00:44:01] And, uh, hopefully we’ll be able to finally heal from it, you know? So, yeah. Yeah. But finally, I finally put it behind us, like, okay, yeah. Deal with this anymore. Um, you know, but yeah, it was horrific. I mean, I don’t even wanna talk about, like, like you, I don’t like to talk about the details because it’s so horrific that, um.

[00:44:26] I, it would traumatize, you know, our listeners, you know, you know, hearing the details. But, uh, um, but I would recommend, you know, if people are, you know, getting past life memories of some horrific war or some, you know, some place, a past life thing, um, you know, if you can’t get an Akashic reading, you know, definitely, you know, consider a past life regression session or maybe, um, you know, theta healing or uh, even QHHT, you know, anything where you can really.

[00:45:01] You know, have somebody help guide you through that process because it can be difficult to deal with it yourself, you know, just speaking from experience. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I feel like this type of trauma healing, um, you can’t operate on yourself and mm-hmm. I would not go to a traditional therapist, not for this.

[00:45:20] Um, I actually, from my and DE birth, a methodology that I call Soul Blueprint, and it is exactly what you described. It’s fast track healing. Mm-hmm. It’s, um, past lifetime healing. Mm-hmm. Really getting in there and bringing it up, but from a place of gentle so you can actually release it. Because if you go too far into it, it’s just, it can be too difficult to like process.

[00:45:43] So there’s ways to bring it up and heal it without reliving it all. I’m just kind of like, Debbie, I’m just kind of like, I feel like crying or something like, but I’m not, I don’t, the tears aren’t coming, but I just feel so like. I don’t have like a, you know, the word ineffable, it kind of transcends words right now because.

[00:46:05] I’m just resonating so much with everything you’re saying. Yeah. As someone who went through that and then signed up for this lifetime at this time, to help planet Earth, to help it push towards the light and not go down a similar dark road to that extent. Yeah. Gotcha. I, I didn’t know it was that particular planet, but I knew that there was a planet where that happened.

[00:46:29] One of the questions I kept asking Liv, this collection of consciousness. Yeah. Because they told me that I chose the lifetime. I’m like. They say we, you know, you know, I was told we choose our lifetimes, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I said, why the hell would I choose that level of trauma? Yeah. And they said, well, because you were one of, you know, you are on the leading edge of consciousness and this planet was going down this road and they needed people to go in and, you know, kind of endure this, if you will, for the sake of that planet.

[00:47:05] But then also we were the ones that were gonna take the trauma, heal from it, and then really be able to help others. Like, so yeah, it had a purpose. It wasn’t, you know, as horrific as it was, it wasn’t random at all. A higher calling. Yeah, no, it wasn’t random. Uh, I feel the same way. Like I had to go through it so that I knew exactly what people that went through it, you know, what, what they, what, what they felt, what they went through, so that, you know, we were in the position to better heal them, you know?

[00:47:41] So, um, you know, so I, I agree with you there. Uh, I’m so happy that, um, that you came to that understanding that it wasn’t just like this unresolved. ’cause I, I see it with, sometimes with some people, they know something bad happened to them in the past life, but they don’t have, I guess, the courage or maybe the stamina to, to deal with it.

[00:48:07] So they keep reliving it, you know, so they keep. They, they don’t ever get past a certain point. Um, and that’s what I think shows you as a true leader, like, you know, you were able to really look at it and digest it and move past it, you know, and now you’re, you know, spending, you know, your life not just with your beautiful family in the Netherlands, but you’re, you’re also spending your life helping a lot of people out there, you know, with your, you know, modality and with the human design and integrating that and, um.

[00:48:39] And I’m trying to do the same thing. You know, I’m here, you know, um, I’m not only trying to help people remember, but I’m also trying to help them heal, you know, so, you know, so that we can get to the fifth dimensional reality on this planet, hopefully in this lifetime, because I’ll be really disappointed if we don’t get to five D in this lifetime.

[00:48:58] I’m gonna be like, I want my money back. Okay. I just, me too, Debbie. I’m so with you. I know. I’m just like, GG God. I, I hope we get there because right now things are looking like a shit show in the three. I mean, it’s just like so bad that, I mean, it’s not, it’s not even real. It’s like, it’s like a, a Hollywood blockbuster movie.

[00:49:22] I mean, it’s just extreme. And I think it’s to push people into some form of awakening, you know? Like, okay, this is getting so ridiculous. You know? I, you know, you start questioning it after a while, you know? Um, and, uh. And, but it’s also an illusion, you know, like everything that happens in the 3D, like, I don’t take it serious anymore.

[00:49:45] Like, I mean, oh yeah, there’s another school shooting. Okay. You know, not that I’m not sad for the people that experienced that, but it’s hap most of it’s not even real, you know, it’s just so, um, so orchestrated, you know? Um, so I so orchestrated what, what I see happening now in Europe, like, they’re like, it’s so orchestrated.

[00:50:06] They’re preparing us for the next big thing, but it’s also like conditioning us to just accept that there’s gonna be a next big thing, a next big, you know? Oh, the big scare event. Yeah. The big scare event of the big invasion with the tanks rolling down maybe. Yeah. Oh yeah. I’m just like, no, get on out of here.

[00:50:25] I know, I hear it from my, my community a lot, Alison. All these people talk about this ascension process. Where’s the ascension? Where is it when it’s gonna happen? And what I say, it’s like tune out in the news and tune in. Like tune into your own heart, your own energy. You’re gonna feel like gifts opening.

[00:50:47] You’re gonna feel like, I believe it’s happening, but you have to choose to connect into it. You know? You have to. You have to choose it. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Um. Uh, and I also think we have the capacity to create a different reality. You know, like if we, if we don’t focus on the chaos and the drama and, you know, the suffering and you know, everything else, you know, if we keep working towards and imagining this different reality, um, and if there’s enough of us doing it at the same time, it’s bound to become a reality.

[00:51:23] I mean, that’s just one of the laws of the universe, you know? So, so I always tell people, you know, you can create whatever you wanna create. You don’t have to just accept the status quo, because that’s what’s being pushed in our faces, you know? Um, in, in actuality, you know, the powers to be on this planet.

[00:51:41] They want us to feel like there’s no hope. You know, they want us to feel like, you know, we’re, we’re helpless, you know, we can’t do anything. Uh, you know, that we just have to accept whatever comes our way because, you know, we don’t have any choice. And that couldn’t be farther from the truth. You know? I mean, you know, I think that’s why there’s so many of us awakening now and wanting to be, you know, part of the spiritual movement or this, you know, this ascension process.

[00:52:11] You know, that we wanna get to the point where we can work past that. Because Earth was always meant to be a fifth dimensional planet. It was never meant to be a third dimensional planet. It was never meant to be at the state that it’s in right now. And I totally a hundred percent agree with your, uh, guides when they said that earth is the lowest planet in.

[00:52:33] This reality that we’re in. It’s, um, that’s why there’s so many of us now trying to get into this higher dimensional state. Um, and, uh, you know, and I honestly think we can create heaven on earth. I really believe that I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t believe it was possible. Um, and, uh, and I think, you know, uh, there’s a lot of focus in mainstream media about, you know, just things are going to hell in a hand basket.

[00:53:05] You know, things are terrible. It’s just getting worse. You know, there’s nothing you can do, you know? Um, and they’re all in, they’re telling us to prepare our emergency kit for the coming war. I mean, they’re teaching it at school. My nine year old’s getting it. Oh my God, prepare your emergency kit. I’m like, what?

[00:53:23] Emergency kit? I’m not like, so I, and it’s all like, it’s just all psychological getting us. Oh yeah, totally. We have no choice. We’ve got no choice. That’s coming. It’s coming, you know, might, you know, get your, you know, you know, get your survival kit ready. Yep. You know, you know, so, um, and, uh, you know, so I, I don’t know, my, my husband actually does have a survival kit.

[00:53:49] ’cause I think he’s lived through some l in war experiences and he’s very sus, you know, I think suspicious of a lot of things. But, um, but honestly, I don’t think we’re gonna get to that point. I think we transcended that lifetime. You know, I did do, and my, I just follow my higher self and I say higher self.

[00:54:07] Do I need to have a kit? And my higher self, if my higher self said yes, I would do something. But hired health is saying no scare tactics, or, you know, they’re saying No, don’t, don’t even plug into that. So, you know, yeah. When you’ve got, and you’ve got higher guidance, you cannot hate this, you know? Yeah. Oh yeah.

[00:54:27] Yeah. Um, my, my higher self says it’s all illusion, you know, it’s just, uh, it’s not real. Scare tactics. Yep. Yeah. Scare tactics. Um, and I mean, do you notice, like lately it’s like every other day there’s a, a shooting someplace or somebody’s getting killed or, I mean, it’s just like, really, and I don’t, and I don’t buy into it that it’s just that we have more exposure.

[00:54:50] Okay. I think it’s, these are actually orchestrated to keep people into fear mode. Um, and to keep them thinking that, you know, that, oh, you know, things are going bad. There’s nothing we can do, you know, uh, Armageddon is imminent, you know, so, um, so yeah. It sounds like you and I are getting very similar guidance, which is good.

[00:55:12] Yes, yes. Yeah. So, um, well. I don’t know. I’m just looking at the time. Oh yeah. I’ve you forever. I feel like you and I met each other because we’re working with a similar organization and that organization connected us and I, I feel like for me, for my personal experience, like that’s the reason that attracted me to that organization to get to you because I feel like.

[00:55:37] The, this was like the last, like I said, I feel emotional. Like this was like one of the last big chapters of my own integration of understanding like, what was that lifetime. And I thank you. I do think it was a series of lifetimes of that trauma. Yeah, me too. Me too. I, I’m pretty sure it was. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and, um.

[00:55:57] My God. It just like, it, it is bringing up some of it right now. But that’s good because Yeah, no, you, you process it. You have the tools now to deal with it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I have to have another NDA, thank God. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I can process it now, but I just wanna say thank you. Like you are doing like really incredibly important work in the world, and thank you.

[00:56:19] No, and so are you. So, um, as you know, so we’re just doing it in our own way with our own gifts. But, um, but no, I do feel like we’re on a very similar mission, you know, to, uh, bring earth to a better state of being and to help heal humanity. Finally heal from, you know, these, these traumas and these sign, you know, these, these DNA signatures have been so embedded in the human DNA for, you know, not just lifetimes, but for Melania, you know, for Melania.

[00:56:54] Yeah. So, um, you know, so, but, but thank you for having me back on and, um, you know, we’ll be sure to share and, you know, get this out there so maybe more people will come to, to some healing and, um, you know, and do, be know, be brave enough to do the work. And I gotta say, I don’t know about you, but. I’m such a wus when it comes to physical pain or per or home emotional pain, that if I can go through this and if Allison can go through this, anybody can go through this.

[00:57:25] I mean, you do not have to be fearful at all. It’s usually a very gentle process, you know, it ends up being that way, even if you do go through some depression. But, um, I’m so glad you said that. I am someone who does, like, I think I’m on this path because I wanted to learn all the tools so I could transmute emotional pain as quickly as possible.

[00:57:47] Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You know, rightly actually processing. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. I do not like to experience emotional pain or physical pain. No, no. God bless it, Debbie. That is exactly right. If I can do it, literally anybody can do it. No, I mean, I’m the same way, girl. I just cannot, I cannot, I, I would rather, you know, drown my sorrows in a tub of ice cream than.

[00:58:12] You know, and emotion and deal with emotional pain. So, you know, if Allison and I can do it, anybody can do it. And just, you know, the, the liberation and the freedom and the feeling of lightness you feel afterwards where you’re not carrying this heavy burden anymore is so worth it. And then you, you’re, you’re opening yourself up to a number of new experiences and new realities, you know?

[00:58:38] So anyway, thank you for having me on. This has been a really great conversation and um, I look forward to staying connected and see what happens. I don’t know, maybe I’ll end up in the Netherlands. I dunno. I’m going to have, yes, I would love that. Definitely. Thank you so much. Yeah, we’ll definitely get together. Yeah. All right. Take care. Take care.

[00:59:01] That brings us to the end of this powerful Part two conversation with Debbie Solaris. If you’ve ever felt like you’re waking up to something bigger, if you’ve experienced a moment of contact, a spiritual download, or a timeline shift you couldn’t explain, then you’re not imagining it dear ones you are remembering.

[00:59:24] Here’s my invitation for you this week. Take a few deep belly breaths and ask, what do I now remember about who I really am that I used to forget? And let the answer find you. It may come as a feeling, a memory, a knowing, or something beyond words. And as always, until next time, may your soul guide the way. If this episode stirred something deeper, you’ll find a link to book a Soul Blueprint connection. Call in the show notes.

00:25 Special Episode with Debbie Soliris

01:07 Exploring Spiritual Awakening Stories

03:25 Debbie’s Near-Death Experience and Awakening

04:31 Challenges of Returning to 3D Life

06:59 Debbie’s Journey to Acceptance

17:40 Alison’s Spiritual Awakening in Paris

29:26 A Mysterious Hospital Visit

29:54 Unexplained Trauma and Counseling

30:30 Interplanetary Trauma and Healing

31:37 The Lyra System and Human Evolution

33:47 Integrating Ancient Trauma

39:18 The Role of Star Seeds and Lightworkers

43:11 Healing Modalities and Personal Growth

50:58 Creating a New Reality